To atheists the concept of a god is a straightjacket; narrowing, restrictive, or like a room with an impossibly low ceiling. To finally throw off the shackles and dismiss the god concept is for them to come home, to finally breathe, to finally have a reason to exist.
Quick to deny God as a generic concept, they make the blunder of dismissing Jesus as a completely frivolous attachment. Yet in Jesus the universe of all god concepts explodes into a metaphysical expansiveness that eliminates the possibility of even thinking in terms of “walls”, “stifling low things above and especially straightjackets. The “logos” concepts that come with Jesus add stunning breadth, dimension and definition to the god concept.
Not to mention other vital little aspects such as love and forgiveness (Divine and human). As relentlessly self-conscious beings, (unselfconsciously possessing moral awareness) this stuff would seem to come in pretty handy for an atheist.
So bring Him into the debate. He’s already here after all. In fact He defines debate itself.
Instead, Mr atheist feels he must labor breathlessly on.
For me to be an atheist would just be way too narrow, too restrictive. It really is faith to conclude there is no god – anywhere. Yes, atheists are quick to affirm that they are just serious doubters, not permanent concluders. But their actions speak otherwise.
Drain the venom, cool down, sober up and let’s talk. Sorry Christopher Hitchens, your cool, suave cleverness betrayed an impassioned little-boy urgency. Many atheists (eg, Gordon Stein, Alex Rosenberg) wear their burden upon their sleeve. You hid yours behind a glass, ice clinking, dismissive smirk.
Gosh I wish I could have had a discussion with you before you…
I for one as a lover of freedom, must go beyond such narrow confines, always urgent to insist that atheists DO (somehow) have a foundation for morality, that something can come out of nothing without a god, darnit and stop asking me “how”!, denials of fideism, definitions of true atheism, the urgency to ridicule, the deification (irony!) of reason, etc.
Whew! Hard work! And for one thing, I just don’t have the energy!
Or maybe I’m just lazy. Jesus does offer rest after all – spiritual, if not in the end mental also, while remaining the most eternally significant, engaging and challenging of all lives ever lived.
But the atheist is always squirming, busily setting up straw men that he can shoot down, or dragging poor ‘ol modern American Christianity in as its debate partner. C’mon, you sneaky little boy! Just a cursory consideration admits that essential Christianity and modern American traditional Christianity are two very different things.
And by the way, we HAVE seen what an atheist state looks like. Dark, hollowed out, low ceilinged, democidal. Mr. Dawkins, you’re a biology guy, not a math guy, right? Yeah, it shows doesnt it?
Well, we know darn well you’re not a HISTORY guy.
You’re not really serious are you? Please.
It takes a far bigger revisionist eraser than you have to wipe from history your Karl, Joseph, Fidel, Che, Chairman Mao, Pol, etc.
Yea, we’ve heard it before, “but we’re different, we’re nice atheists.”
Don’t even go there. You’re smarter than that.
Own it and calm down. We reject your laborious fabrications, as well as your ideas of an atheist state.
We prefer life.